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How To Install Shingles #2 Getting Started

hi I'm Shannon from house improvements

calm in today's video I want to just

show you how to basically get started on

a roofing project so this video is going

to deal with getting the underlay laman

started which in our case we're using a

grip guard or ice and water protection

whichever one you prefer as well as

getting the starter strip and the first

row of shingles going so we've obviously

stripped the roof off already as you can

see you can see our other video dealing

with stripping shingles and we've gone

around and made sure all the nails are

pounded down and that there's nothing

protruding all the boards are tight and

and solid there's no rot so we've

basically got the roof all prepared

we're ready to shingle depending on your

type of shingles that you're using some

manufacturers don't recommend shingling

over a roof that has individual boards

with spaces like this they may recommend

that you sheet the entire roof right

over top of this well you either rip

this off and reseed it or sheet over

this with 7/16 or three-eighths plywood

in this case I'm not really too worried

about it the space is very minimal and

I've already done the other side of this

roof four or five years ago and there

hasn't been any problems so but just

double check with your manufacturer they

may void your warranty so just be aware

of that if you decide to go ahead the

way that I am without sheathing it that

you may void your warranty so okay so

roof is prepped we've got some of the

ice guard rolled out so that we're just

over in this corner ready to go

basically what we want to do for that

before we get started is we want to

install a drip edge on this edge now I'm

are using the existing one here just

because it was in good shape if you're

adding a new one basically all you want

to do is go along the eave add your roof

with this aluminum drip edge whatever

color you decide to choose and just

install it with a few few shingle nails

holding it down okay no rocket science

there just get it on there don't worry

about the you need it up that edge

you up the rake end but we aren't going

to worry about that rate at this stage

I'll get to that a little bit further

down okay so once we have that we want

to then measure our grip guard material

and at each end of the roof

I want to measure up a measurement in

regards to the width your grip guard so

that we can snap a straight line to get

the grip guard running straight your

eave here probably isn't straight okay

you want your grip guard to be on to

this metal for sure I try not to have it

hanging over because it just looks bad

the shingles we will hang over but the

grip guard I don't so just make sure

that the grip guard is going to seal

onto this metal by at least an inch when

you determine the height of that line

okay so snap that line is a straight lot

guide get your grip guard up there roll

your grip guard out in relationship to

that line now the grip guard basically

it's a eve protection and so this in

this case it's helping for ice dams and

that sort of thing now depending where

where in the world you are that might

not be an issue for you you might be

able to just use 15 pound roofing felt

for the whole roof in this area there's

an issue with possible ice damming and

and that's a whole different thing I'm

not going to go too into the explanation

of that but basically it's just water

and snow freezing and melting and

freezing and melting and working its way

backwards up the shingles so this is

just an extra layer protection to

prevent that from getting in the house

in my area here this edge of that

material needs to be 12 inches inside

the exterior wall below so actually it

would be inside the house line and

because we're a little bit lower slope

here we're actually going to do a second

roll to get us 24 inches inside of that

wall okay so basically we've got about a

12 a 24 inch overhang on our roof here

so my wall inside the house the exterior

wall is somewhere under this area so

we're just trying to be 12 inches inside

of that and in my case 24 so we're going

to use

a second roll of this once we get going

okay so this material it's much like a

shingle

it's you know got the same kind of

makeup as a shingle but it's got this

backing on the back that you can see

here that we peel off as we go to help

it stick down once the Sun gets on there

for a couple days it'll just blew it

bond it right down to the plywood or the

board's that you have here for your roof

so so I'm going to roll this out and

I'll just use the odd I got my stapler

we're going to use the odd staple in it

just to roughly hold it in place until

it bonds down obviously once we shingle

over it it's all that's going to hold it

down to this material also as you

shingle over it and obviously puncture

it full of a few holes it kind of closes

right up around those nails just in case

somebody's wondering about what why

bother if we're just going to punch it

full of a thousand holes but it does

kind of self seal itself so so I'm just

going to roll this out a little bit at a

time here I've got my line up here I

know you can't see that I'm trying to

keep this straight keep as many wrinkles

out of it as I can

we've got this backing started it's it's

basically split in the middle so you've

got a top edge and a back edge to kind

of peel out one other thing that I just

you might notice me look over my

shoulder always be aware of where the

edge of the roof is so you don't fall

off you just always got to be leery of

that okay so we're kind of getting that

down it was hotter today that would seal

down quite well right away we're just

putting a few staples up in this edge

just to kind of tack it there it's a

little breezy today I don't want the

wind to rip it off on us I'm just going

to peel that out all the way and I'll

come back and get the bottom edge if you

get a little bit off this line don't be

too worried about it but try to stay as

close as you can to it which is just

help everything stay nice and straight

look back make sure you don't have a

whole bunch of wrinkles

those wrinkles will just kind of show

right through the shingles even once

you're finished if it's really wrinkled

bad get rid of that now on the bottom

we've got the same thing I mentioned

about pounding all the nails down in the

roof early on in the video and part of

it is when you're pulling that plastic

out they get snagged on any that are

sticking up so if you can kind of get

them down I've actually got feels like

they got something under there

got an old nail under there okay so we

just had an old nail that popped out

underneath that membrane stick it down

I'm going to throw a few staples along

this end here as well okay just to keep

the wind from getting under it not too

worried about down here it's it's going

to stick down to that metal pretty

quickly once the Sun comes around and

we'll be getting a starter roll on there

as well anyways okay so we've got that

started down and the next thing you want

to do is basically to get started with

the shingling actually before I start

that I'm going to talk about this drip

edge on the side of the roof so we've

got a gable roof here so we need a piece

of this drip edge this is the material

right here okay

you'll notice I'm using two different

ones I've got a little bit different one

here that I can get in my area you may

not be able to get that style so you

might be using this all the way around

that's fine now as we progress up this

roof I've already talked that I'm going

to do another roll of the ice-barrier

eye shield up here and then a from that

point on in my area I've got to use two

layers of 15-pound roofing felt on the

entire roof under the shingles okay

along these edges the gable ends

I actually want this to be on top of

that felt on top of this as well so that

if you can imagine if this is your side

of your roof okay this roof goes out

there if water or snow or anything is

driving this way and gets actually

between this and your shingles it can

run under your shingle come out here and

actually get on to the felt paper or the

the whatever you got for underlayment

and it'll run to the bottom of the roof

without going into the wood or soaking

into the wood okay if you had this

underneath if this was under that under

your underlayment the rain and that

could just go right between them and

right into your attic or whatever do

some damage so so on the ends you want

this to be over top of all your

underlayment down here we've got it

underneath because water is rolling down

and it's then it's onto here and oh it

into the gutters so okay so two

different ways to do that now because of

the wind today I can't roll this whole

roof out with paper taffet's just going

to rip off before I get it shingled so

what I'm going to do I'm going to

actually leave this off until we get a

little bit of the shingle started and

then I can once the shingles are over

here on this edge I'll just come and

tuck it underneath there and get it

started and then you know once we get a

little bit further it's just because

it's such a long length if I if I just

tack it down here and leave it hanging

up there the winds going to rip it off

in this crazy country today okay so you

will see at some point in my other video

showing installing like actually

shingling the roof you're going to see

that piece on there and hopefully I'll

remember to mention about it again so

okay now to get the roof started we've

got our underlayment perfect we're good

on that end what we're going to do this

is the shingle we're using we're using a

laminated architectural shingle as our

actual finished shingle so you can see

we've got some doubled up areas here

when these are all done it looks really

good it looks like you know a shake roof

or

you know a nicer nicer style roof

instead just a three tab or interlocking

which most areas and can't get anymore

but anyways this is just a normal three

tab here so this is basically your other

option

it's three tab rooms like that now with

the three tabs or architecture all you

need to start with a starter strip what

that is is basically just an extra layer

of shingles right at the edge of the

roof okay over top of your underlayment

you can buy a starter strip from your

different shingle companies really all

you need to do is buy a pack of three

tab shingles same color as what you're

using for your main shingles take the

shingle normally this is how it would be

on the roof turn it half a turn this way

use this as your starter strip okay

so we'll put this on our first row of

shingles will line up completely with it

and what that does is it just gives us a

double layer of protection right here

plus the underlayment

okay so just cheaper to buy a three tab

and do it that way you're still getting

the same still getting the same thing

now to get that started we want to have

a nice straight line just like we did

with the with the underlayment so we're

going to do the same thing we're going

to measure the shingle we're going to

saw where we're going to measure this

this one here this is the three tab

shingle we're going to use for the

starter strip and I'm just measuring the

width of it and what I want when it's

all said and done is ideally I'd like it

to hang over about a quarter inch past

the drip cap okay so that means whatever

this measurement is which i think is

thirteen and a quarter

we actually want to line about thirteen

inches up from the corner that drip edge

to follow to get us nice and Street and

that'll give us our quarter inch

overhang some people like more I

wouldn't go any less than a quarter inch

on your overhang depending how crooked

your roof is you may not you know some

spots that might not hang over quite

that much so

this fairly street so like I said I'm

going to mark my measurement up here on

this end and that end then I'm going to

hand my partner there the chalk line

we're going to snap that line so that we

can get started here okay so we've got

our mark out here I'm going to roll out

the chalk line give that to my helper

he's going to go all the way to the

other end of the roof and we've got a

mark down there corresponding to the

same thing are you making out you're

good there okay and I'm going to stretch

this out and get a nice nice and taunt

so we get a nice true line just like

that okay so that's our our guide line

basically so we can hopefully get a nice

straight start to this shingle job I

usually like to use that do the starter

strip just by hand nailing and dragging

the holes along and a lot of times you

don't have the luxury of having a

scaffold to work off right here so

you're working up on the roof you know

basically hang over the edge nailing

upside down the nice thing with the

scaffold that we set up it does a couple

different things that's it's mainly for

the camera guy to have a decent area to

shoot from but it also is a bit of fall

protection so that we don't have to be

harnessed off we have to be very careful

still out at the outer edges so we

probably should be harnessed off still

there but this gives us the fall

protection we need on this side okay so

I'm going to get rid of my stapler okay

so remember I said we're going to turn

that one upside down just like it is

here now

and the same thing like like I said we

want to hang off a quarter inch on this

edge which are our line will give us

there we also want to hang off about

that same amount or even half an inch on

the far end so just want to take the

time to get started out here correctly

and I can see that this is already a

little bit I think we're going to be

alright it's a little goofy here because

this drift badge is kind of bent out of

shape to match up on top of this gutter

guard

okay so mark line the top the shingle up

up there on there and we're going to

nail up I'm going to stay away from this

end so I can get that piece in we're

going to nail about halfway up the

shingle I'm going to put five five nails

in this one I would normally have one

out there and I'll be able to add it

once I have that trim work in there okay

so you just want to keep going along all

the way along the length of the roof

putting the starter strip down don't

worry too much about what's going on

down here we're worried about this line

we have up here so that we get started

out nice and straight but the shingles

in tight to each other

a few nails out of here you may want to

wear safety glasses just depending how

crazy your nailing okay I'll do one more

just to get a little ways along here and

you could use an air nailer for this I

will for the main part of the roof but

like I said I just like to have nailing

to get started here it's just one less

thing in your way okay so you go all the

way along the roof cut it off with your

whatever you decide you wanna for

overhang down there and then the other

part of getting started is getting your

first actual course of the finished

shingles on the roof now with this

particular shingle we want to be nailing

there's a doubled up section here we

don't want to be nailing above this tar

strip up here otherwise they're not

going to hold for the wind load that

they're supposed to we need to basically

nail right along that tar strip and

that'll be in the double layer of the

shingle you can kind of see there's a

line here you don't want to have any or

nails below that because then they're

going to be exposed so there's kind of

you got a you know maybe three-quarters

of an inch

area there to nail into and you want to

be fairly precise with that now we're

starting with a full full length shingle

here on this very first roll we're

flushing it up really just flushing it

up to the starter strip that we put on

all the way along narrow get down there

there and out there and these particular

ones they for my winds and roof slope

and everything they recommend six nails

in this one I'm staying back from the

end so we can put that trim in again

after

I'm nailing rate at the tar strip so I

came in about an inch or I would be

coming in about an inch from each end

and then space the other four nails out

within the shingle okay just like that

so for this role we want to just do that

same thing all the way along right on

top of this one that we did I'll do one

more here

the subsequent rows after this we'll

deal with in the next video so you'll

need to look for that so we're just

budding the shingle together coming in

about an inch into the tar strip nail

length if you're using an air nailer one

inch inch and an eighth nails are more

than enough with the air nailer for the

main body of the roof the ridge cap is a

little different you're going to need

longer nails to get through all the

layers you have we'll talk about that in

the other video too but if you anything

your hand nailing and you should even if

your air nailing you should have some

hand nails around as well because you're

going to need them you could use the

one-inch nails but I wouldn't recommend

it because you're just going to beat

your fingers to death so I like to use

about an inch and a half nail gives you

lots of room to get your fingers on it

get the nail started without smashing

your finger with the hammer so so we

just work work along like that and

really the only concern here to watch

for is that you're not going to end up

with this seam in this layer lining

right up with the seam and the one below

try to stay at least three or four

inches off set these two shingles are

different lengths so I didn't have to

cut one or the other to get started to

make that happen so it should work out

right to the end of the roof but just be

aware of that as you go my forgetting

anything I don't think so I think that

pretty much handles it so like said in

the next video you're going to see us do

more with this roof as we get up higher

we're going to have some vents to go

around ridge cap all that kind of stuff

we're going to deal with that molding

down there as well so so hopefully this

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